...But I want there to be some plan in place before we start anything. I know killing me will snap me out of it, but I get the feeling no one want that to be Plan A.
The plan is to help you with the control and the focus. I know you don't think your self-image is important, but it actually is more than your self-esteem.
But for a more, hands-on thing...pick someone, maybe two of us, to keep updated if anything starts making you feel that side of you stirring. For any reason. And especially when we're training or even just sparring.
That's not what I meant... I mean, of course I'll do all that.
I mean a plan if I lose it. What's going to be done to contain me. I can't really be stopped from my frenzy other than if I lose enough blood to get weak. Or I guess if there was a sedative that I wouldn't immediately metabolize. The last time they just killed me, which is easiest, but it seems like that's pretty hard on everyone.
So, planning out things like that isn't my strong point. That's more of an MK or Red Son deal. I'm good at reaction and working on the fly. I mean, I can come up with a plan that's not wrong, but I still need work.
[He thinks for a moment though, actually wracking his brain a bit.]
I do have some tricks I picked up that could definitely help in the moment though. But I need to know. Have you ever come out of it eventually on your own?
I'm good at planning, so maybe between us it might be okay. [ She's trying. ]
I had a panic room attached to Red Son's workshop. You can get into it from the outside, shut me in. It's comfortable but secure.
...No, I've never just come out of it. It takes a big shock. Death, unconsciousness in some form, blood loss until I weaken. I have no idea if I could, just that I never have.
Okay. Well, I know I can definitely both stop and get you into that panic room. And knocking you out I could manage easier than you'd think. Especially with help from MK.
I can't be knocked out with physical damage alone unless I'm anemic already, thanks to the instant healing. But if I have to heal a series of bouts of severe damage that would make me anemic. You'd have to beat me about the head for awhile is all.
Stuffing me in the panic room and waiting for me to run out of blood is probably the least difficult option, but if I get beat up a bunch beforehand it would speed up the process.
Now you're just underestimating me a bit. I might have overestimated you the first real fight, but I've mastered the art of "enough force to get the job done".
I've got you covered there, trust me. Especially since I'm practically my own army.
I was close to my hibernation then. And also anemic. And I only used a fraction of the effect my mind attacks can have because I didn't want to hurt you. And I never fight with all my abilities when I'm in my right mind because I don't want to lose control.
I know you're able to handle me fine but you can't operate on the assumptions of when we sparred or fight before. All that goes out the window when I'm out of control.
I wasn't basing that on our fight before. I was saying that was the only time I've made that mistake. That's two different things. And even if you hit me with your strongest mind attack, could you hit 15 or more of me all at once? Especially if each one is literally me in every way, down to the tiniest power?
Because if you can then you've been holding out hard.
I don't know if I could use telepathic attacks on your clones, actually. It depends if they think for themselves.
But if they do, then yes I could. [ Diva had been preparing to reach into the minds of literally millions of people when Saya caught up with her. ] It's possible I could hit every inhabitant of this world at the same time. My sister was trying exactly that when I finally took her down.
Possible's worth knowing, because my clones do think for themselves. I mean, you've met Porty right? But, keep in mind that I have a clone for every hair I have, and each of them have the same.
And if MK's helping he's got the same advantage.
I can also seal your powers and just immobilize you with magic. So, you know, so can all of the clones.
[He's taking the threat seriously, but he's not worried it's something that they won't be able to manage it. Overconfident? Maybe a bit, but when you've only really had a couple of beings that you couldn't beat it's a given to not be too worried.]
I'm not worried about you winning. [ She's practically crying by now. ] I'm worried about hurting someone. If not your or MK than someone less able to handle me.
It doesn't matter how minor the injuries are, harming anyone while I'm like that eats at me.
[ Saya breathes for a second and tries to focus past the fear. She concentrates on him, every place they're touching, how much she trusts him. ]
[ But she keeps seeing images of herself slaughtering innocent people, cutting and clawing her way through a room of people she loves who were all ready for it, all extremely powerful in their own right. This feels like tempting fate. ]
I do trust you. Even so, it's hard to sign up for my worst nightmare.
You're better at resisting me than most, that's why you mind it less. I suspect if I tried to wrap you around my little finger, it would end up rather the opposite.
[ She smiles sweetly, gives him a sweeter kiss. ] Not that I'd mind.
If I started listing everything I like about you we'd be here all night. There's a reason I couldn't accept Red Son's boundaries.
...Which are gone now, by the way. All of them. [ Biting and drinking his blood, even. Which she might be tempted towards by the way she leans forward and nuzzles into his neck. ]
I'm not trying to wrangle you, though. Why would I want to do that? I said I accept you as you are, I meant it. Even if it means I have to chase and never quite catch you.
I'm glad. Our history shouldn't be your restriction. [He tilts his head, completely relaxed and content.] I'm sensing some temptation on your part.
And you wouldn't. But if you did wrap me around your little finger, I'd be pretty much wrangled. You might not catch me, but I'll eventually come to you.
[ A low hum which substitutes for a chuckle ] You're picking up on my extremely subtle cues? Well, that's a relief.
--I'm not in any rush. The temptation is always there. [ And she knows he's not been in the best place, and isn't sure if her biting would help or hurt. ]
Oh, is that how it works? Wait patiently with a peach in my hand until you venture over? Patience isn't so much my strong suit, it takes something extremely worth my wait...
[ She kisses his neck just idly, as if she's thinking it over. She's never going to be tired of how his fur feels. ]
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 03:09 am (UTC)I'm not sure I even know how to relax that control if I wanted to. My handlers hollowed me out so many times I don't even know where it ends.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 03:13 am (UTC)[He starts to nuzzle her hair, purring softly.]
All I need is for you to trust me, as your teacher and your friend. I want to help you through this.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 03:26 am (UTC)...But I want there to be some plan in place before we start anything. I know killing me will snap me out of it, but I get the feeling no one want that to be Plan A.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 03:44 am (UTC)But for a more, hands-on thing...pick someone, maybe two of us, to keep updated if anything starts making you feel that side of you stirring. For any reason. And especially when we're training or even just sparring.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 02:10 pm (UTC)I mean a plan if I lose it. What's going to be done to contain me. I can't really be stopped from my frenzy other than if I lose enough blood to get weak. Or I guess if there was a sedative that I wouldn't immediately metabolize. The last time they just killed me, which is easiest, but it seems like that's pretty hard on everyone.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 04:27 pm (UTC)[He thinks for a moment though, actually wracking his brain a bit.]
I do have some tricks I picked up that could definitely help in the moment though. But I need to know. Have you ever come out of it eventually on your own?
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 04:31 pm (UTC)I had a panic room attached to Red Son's workshop. You can get into it from the outside, shut me in. It's comfortable but secure.
...No, I've never just come out of it. It takes a big shock. Death, unconsciousness in some form, blood loss until I weaken. I have no idea if I could, just that I never have.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 04:41 pm (UTC)So that should be fine.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 04:47 pm (UTC)Stuffing me in the panic room and waiting for me to run out of blood is probably the least difficult option, but if I get beat up a bunch beforehand it would speed up the process.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 04:58 pm (UTC)I've got you covered there, trust me. Especially since I'm practically my own army.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 07:32 pm (UTC)I know you're able to handle me fine but you can't operate on the assumptions of when we sparred or fight before. All that goes out the window when I'm out of control.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 07:39 pm (UTC)Because if you can then you've been holding out hard.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 07:59 pm (UTC)But if they do, then yes I could. [ Diva had been preparing to reach into the minds of literally millions of people when Saya caught up with her. ] It's possible I could hit every inhabitant of this world at the same time. My sister was trying exactly that when I finally took her down.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 08:10 pm (UTC)And if MK's helping he's got the same advantage.
I can also seal your powers and just immobilize you with magic. So, you know, so can all of the clones.
[He's taking the threat seriously, but he's not worried it's something that they won't be able to manage it. Overconfident? Maybe a bit, but when you've only really had a couple of beings that you couldn't beat it's a given to not be too worried.]
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 08:14 pm (UTC)It doesn't matter how minor the injuries are, harming anyone while I'm like that eats at me.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 08:20 pm (UTC)[He presses his forehead to hers.]
You're the first line of defense so we work on beefing that up. The rest of us are your safety net. So that's your focus. Leave the if-then to us.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 08:32 pm (UTC)[ But she keeps seeing images of herself slaughtering innocent people, cutting and clawing her way through a room of people she loves who were all ready for it, all extremely powerful in their own right. This feels like tempting fate. ]
I do trust you. Even so, it's hard to sign up for my worst nightmare.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 08:39 pm (UTC)[He purrs quietly, watching her eyes. His are nearly back to being cheerful for the first time in awhile.]
It's not an overnight change to get over a fear like this. But you're not dealing alone.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 08:44 pm (UTC)Watch yourself, if you keep giving me hope then I'll be even more of an emotional terrorist, and then where will you be?
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 09:08 pm (UTC)[That's what he's been waiting for.]
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 09:16 pm (UTC)[ She smiles sweetly, gives him a sweeter kiss. ] Not that I'd mind.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 09:56 pm (UTC)[He kisses her back and relaxes back with a smile.]
But I like to think I'm rather hard to wrangle.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 10:09 pm (UTC)...Which are gone now, by the way. All of them. [ Biting and drinking his blood, even. Which she might be tempted towards by the way she leans forward and nuzzles into his neck. ]
I'm not trying to wrangle you, though. Why would I want to do that? I said I accept you as you are, I meant it. Even if it means I have to chase and never quite catch you.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 10:14 pm (UTC)And you wouldn't. But if you did wrap me around your little finger, I'd be pretty much wrangled. You might not catch me, but I'll eventually come to you.
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Date: Oct. 28th, 2023 10:21 pm (UTC)--I'm not in any rush. The temptation is always there. [ And she knows he's not been in the best place, and isn't sure if her biting would help or hurt. ]
Oh, is that how it works? Wait patiently with a peach in my hand until you venture over? Patience isn't so much my strong suit, it takes something extremely worth my wait...
[ She kisses his neck just idly, as if she's thinking it over. She's never going to be tired of how his fur feels. ]
Luckily, you are.
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