"Did Candid say that about you?" Red Son asked. "I don't know how much you've told MK about...everything, but I do think a factor you have to consider is MK is self destructive. Candid thought I was going to be willing to kill him," he said. "And was going to kill a part of MK. Because when its MK, he's always someone who can be sacrificed and even the Wukong doll is him. Despite the face it wore."
He lifts up her hand, kissing her knuckles. "Not that I don't see why you feel bad, but it may be important to remember those facts."
"I wouldn't know what he'd say, but he gave me that setup on purpose. There's a reason for that." The logic parses if you ask her.
"But it's not just that. That was a reminder. The latest piece of a pattern. Being here let me forget what I am, and then my other memories came rushing back, and then the heart game, and I'm getting hit in the face with it all the time."
"I would not discount the amount of MK just does not value himself," Red Son said. "And Macaque and I default to running from Wukong when he's like that."
Red Son is never going to convince her that MK and Candid are the same person, that's probably a fruitless argument. Especially given her vastly different relationships with MK and Porty.
She nods. "I was born as a monster, and that's what I've been all my life. By my actions, not just biology. I thought I escaped it, but I've been reminded too often that I haven't."
Its more the acknowledgement of their own self perception. Porty has at least some level of self actualization. Candid needs to get there. Like a lot of emotions, it was less the truth of the matter, though difficult as it is to say what's true, so much as how people are perceiving things and going forward.
"....did you enjoy killing Wukong?" Red Son asked.
"A little bit of satisfaction, yeah. He'd been hunting us the whole game, and he was holding hostages, working with Relius. I wanted to kill it. Which makes me wonder what that says about me."
"Satisfaction and joy are different things. You can feel satisfaction finishing truly thankless tasks," Red Son said. "Especially when you were dealing with something you saw as a doll. Because you didn't see it as Wukong, or MK, did you?"
"No, but that's part of the problem. I know heart games. I knew we were in MK's soul, that everything in there was him. And I still only saw that doll as an enemy to be snuffed out."
"Yes, it was. But you were also stuck in a situation and you had to commit to the actions you had chosen, or else it would just be worse overall," he said. "Just like many of my regrettable decisions. Too far to go back once I'd started."
"Never is a very long time," Red Son said. "And we have forever. And there's also the question if you could destroy him forever, because I am great at problem solving."
A pause. "Which I know seems like a non-answer. But the fact is, you are asking a difficult question that I can't give an honest answer to because I can't say what I would do unless I was in the situation. I know you, and MK as well, seem convinced I play favorites and you think its to such a degree that I would easily forsake one of you for the other, but that's not the case. That situation is a lot of intense emotions so I can't say how the chips would fall. All I know is forever can change anything."
"I'm not convinced you play favorites. I just know that what I did was that egregious. And I'm always doing things like that. You'd think I'd have learned to be more careful by now. I had no business being in that heart game at all."
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Date: Feb. 6th, 2025 10:03 pm (UTC)He lifts up her hand, kissing her knuckles. "Not that I don't see why you feel bad, but it may be important to remember those facts."
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Date: Feb. 6th, 2025 10:09 pm (UTC)"But it's not just that. That was a reminder. The latest piece of a pattern. Being here let me forget what I am, and then my other memories came rushing back, and then the heart game, and I'm getting hit in the face with it all the time."
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Date: Feb. 6th, 2025 10:34 pm (UTC)Red Son frowned at that. "What you are?"
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Date: Feb. 6th, 2025 10:38 pm (UTC)She nods. "I was born as a monster, and that's what I've been all my life. By my actions, not just biology. I thought I escaped it, but I've been reminded too often that I haven't."
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Date: Feb. 6th, 2025 10:45 pm (UTC)"....did you enjoy killing Wukong?" Red Son asked.
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Date: Feb. 6th, 2025 10:48 pm (UTC)"A little bit of satisfaction, yeah. He'd been hunting us the whole game, and he was holding hostages, working with Relius. I wanted to kill it. Which makes me wonder what that says about me."
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Date: Feb. 7th, 2025 12:34 am (UTC)A pause. "Which I know seems like a non-answer. But the fact is, you are asking a difficult question that I can't give an honest answer to because I can't say what I would do unless I was in the situation. I know you, and MK as well, seem convinced I play favorites and you think its to such a degree that I would easily forsake one of you for the other, but that's not the case. That situation is a lot of intense emotions so I can't say how the chips would fall. All I know is forever can change anything."
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Date: Feb. 7th, 2025 01:29 am (UTC)"I'm not convinced you play favorites. I just know that what I did was that egregious. And I'm always doing things like that. You'd think I'd have learned to be more careful by now. I had no business being in that heart game at all."